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ceo of pimco mr. mohammed el-erian. welcome back. >> thank you, bill. >> and i've given you your first question. i gave it to rick earlier. we've seen this rise in yields even as the fed met to try to bring rates down some more. even as the fiscal cliff negotiations continue on. you'd think there'd be a rush to these safe havens. that's not happening. have we seen the low for the treasury yields for the foreseeable future? >> it depends which bend of the curve you're talking about. if you're talking about the 10 year point, we would agree with rick. looks like a range between 1.6% and 2%. and the language of keeping interest rates at zero. the long end is going to be volatile and more dangerous. it depends where on the curve you. >> so -- i'm sorry? >> it was interesting. this was brought up by one of our portfolio managers this morning. the fed's statement was hawkish last wednesday. we don't agree. what the fed tried to do is provide greater clarity to the markets. >> right. >> but that had been misinterpreted as it being more hawkish. we don't think that is the case. >> so all of th
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